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Addressing issue #2479: add note that if not enough pauses for AD, then authors MUST fall back on alternative or FAIL#2517

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Addressing issue #2479: add note that if not enough pauses for AD, then authors MUST fall back on alternative or FAIL#2517
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Added language to clarify that The language of the success criterion is an OR statement between the requirement for an alternative for time-based media OR an audio description. Therefore, if an audio description cannot be provided because there are insufficient spaces in the dialog to insert the Audio Description, then an alternative for time-based media would be required.

Added language to clarify that The language of the success criterion is an OR statement between the requirement for an alternative for time-based media OR an audio description. Therefore, if an audio description cannot be provided because there are insufficient spaces in the dialog to insert the Audio Description, then an alternative for time-based media would be required.
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@DavidMacDonald (and @PICARDBRB) — FWIW I don't agree with the conclusion that Therefore an audio description cannot be provided because there are insufficient spaces in the dialog to insert the Audio Description, then an alternative for time-based media would be required.

I would be happy to defer to AGWG consensus.

  1. I am not sure the pre-condition is entirely coherent. We do not have an example.
  2. Conclusion does not necessarily follow from the normative SC text. It could just be gap.
  3. If "required" means "necessary for good accessibility" then I am okay with the intent of this edit.

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Please replace "required" with "necessary for good accessibility" or similar. I don't agree that "required" is correct.

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in the context of the "other" debate we've been having about videos that don't have sufficient pauses for AD ... this may still be relevant. retracting my thumbs-down, but this may be ground already covered by other more recent PRs that try to more fundamentally address the problem (but have been mired in lengthy discussions) #4460

this PR may be superseded by #1790 if that gets accepted/merged

@patrickhlauke patrickhlauke changed the title Addressing issue #2479 Addressing issue #2479: add note that if not enough pauses for AD, then authors MUST fall back on alternative or FAIL Jan 25, 2026
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